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"In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won't just find some long-lost Reaper "off" button," - Casey Hudson

"Don't expect to win the loyalty of the galaxy by simply completing a series of fetch quests" - Casey Hudson

"… part of what you're trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That's part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn't it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense." - Casey Hudson

"There are many different endings. We wouldn't do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?" - Mike Gamble

"It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings,where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them." - Casey Hudson

"[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers." - Mac Walters

"And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as much as we are anyway." - Mike Gamble

"Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you didn't make" - Mike Gamble

"Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get some closure, a great ending. I think they're going to get that." - Casey Hudson

"The whole idea of Mass Effect 3 is resolving all of the biggest questions, about the Protheons and the Reapers, and being in the driver's seat to end the galaxy and all of these big plot lines, to decide what civilizations are going to live or die: All of these things are answered in Mass Effect 3." - Casey Hudson

"There is a huge set of consequences that start stacking up as you approach the end-game. And even in terms of the ending itself, it continues to break down to some very large decisions. So it's not like a classic game ending where everything is linear and you make a choice between a few things - it really does layer in many, many different choices, up to the final moments, where it's going to be different for everyone who plays it." - Casey Hudson

the cover image is this (maybe now it's bigger than in the cover)
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This is a sample of BW's 'artistic integrity'

my contribute for the retake of ME3 :)
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godofimagination Featured By Owner May 11, 2012
Oh snap! Gurren Lagann AND Mass Effect!?
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Archon89 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
Pił leggo tutto questo, e pił mi metto a ridere! XD Per il fatto che hanno detto CHIARAMENTE e continuamente certe cose e poi non le hanno tradotte in realtą come tutti ci aspettavamo. Bravi, ragazzi della Bioware. XD
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levitan71 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i do fear bw that your fans will give somewhat a cold shoulder in the purchase of new products from said company..
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graustier Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
"Artistic Integrity", indeed. Too bad their actions don't stack up to their claims. Damned insulting. :unimpressed:

I don't dispute Bioware's rights to their franchise. Their game, their rules. However, unlike books or movies, when you go about making a trilogy of games such as this, you are committing to a standard from start to finish (An obligation to the fans so to speak). That standard was the ability to choose who your character was, how they and the galaxy around them was shaped and formed through each chapter. That expectation was well met throughout the series, which adds to the disappointment that Bioware would run out of steam like that.

If Bioware wishes to kick their fanbase in the balls (or ovaries, respectively...... quads, maybe? =p), that's their prerogative. However, they had best not expect folks to look kindly upon their future works with Mass Effect if they continue to make this conduct habitual.

In the meantime, I will just enjoy the parts of the games I like, and suspend belief of the ones I don't. The Ending may have been an important factor, but it is not everything. I wish everyones' Shepards a good journey. =)
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I get your point, but Bethesda some years ago did the same 'mistake' ending Fallout 3 with the hero's death. Fans went in nerdrage. But they (Bethesda) didn't insult their fans saying that they're a bunch of ignorant people who don't understand art, they apologized and made a DLC that allowed you to survive and continue playing.
Bethesda's know how to satisfy and keep their customers.
I don't think the ending is the only problem with ME3, the disregarded expectations are so many even ingame!
They had no time to develop it as it should have been, EA was eager to have our money in their greedy pockets.
But I don't want to wait and see EA bankrupt, it's a meager satisfaction, I'm trying to save what can be saved of ME3. I'm trying to pull out the best I can from the summer DLC. I want them to understand that adult fans won't be won back with a free-package for the multiplayer (I hate it) and kabooooooooooom I'm having fuuun ohhh I love BW :devil:
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graustier Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
You are correct, the ending was but one of many things that BW/EA just pulled out of their collective posterior and plopped onto the plate, and should be corrected in my opinion.
Also, I never meant to imply that I was merely sitting on the sidelines, casually observing. I signed on with a number of petitions and polls that requested these oversights be revised, Retake ME3 being one of them.

I still believe the franchise is rightfully theirs, however. They can do what they want with it. The best thing we, as fans, can do is submit creative input and tell them our wants directly. If that does not work, well, then we vote with our feet (and more importantly, with our wallets).

Bethesda's Fallout 3 was one such precedence, and a good example. Such things happen between game/software developers and fans often, and is certainly nothing new. My hopes are positive, but I won't hold my breath. I have enough gray hairs as is. *Chuckles*.

Here's to a positive outcome. We'll hold the line. =)
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
great! :D
Hold the line then, I'm full of white hair (tinted black) too :P
Here in Italy we say that 'there are none so deaf as those who do not want to hear' ... I don't know if it gives the idea, but it perfectly defines EA's leaders :(
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malgrumm Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
hmm.....
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Cardboredbox Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Boy, reading all those quotes from the BioWare peeps just warms me up inside. You don't even know. :iconfacepalmplz:
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ValGravel Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Kind of hard to retake something that never really belonged to you in the first place.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
have you ever heard talking about misleading advertising? It's illegal and I know a fan of Mass Effect from BWSN has denounced EA for that. He's my hero.

"As a philosophy, marketing is based on thinking about the business in terms of CUSTOMER NEEDS AND THEIR SATISFACTION. Marketing differs from selling because (in the words of Harvard Business School's emeritus professor of marketing Theodore C. Levitt) "Selling concerns itself with the tricks and techniques of getting people to exchange their cash for your product. It is not concerned with the values that the exchange is all about. And it does not, as marketing invariably does, view the entire business process as consisting of a tightly integrated effort to discover, create, arouse, and satisfy customer needs."

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ValGravel Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Say whatever you want....Buying a product of any kind, a book, a dvd, a music cd does not mean you OWN the property or it's story in any way, shape or form. Bottom line, Mass Effect never belonged to anyone, other than Bioware. They were kind enough to share this fantastic world with us. Fans that started the whole "Retake Mass Effect" project almost make me ashamed to call myself a fan of the franchise. Besides, you'll be getting your DLC this summer, so there really isn't a reason for you to complain anymore. I was one of the very few fans who found nothing majorly wrong with the ending and I will not let something so trivial dampen my love for Mass Effect or Bioware in general. A game is a product, some things need to be scrapped in order to respect deadlines. I blame the ending on EA, not Bioware.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
'They were kind enough to share this fantastic world with us.'

:rofl: yes, they did it for sharing, they are benefactors of humanity :XD:
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ValGravel Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, and you guys just throw it back in there faces. Laugh all you want, at least I'm not childish enough to send tri colored cupcakes to their offices.
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Sushiserv Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012
It's not childish. It is sending a message. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle decided not to kill Holmes off because his friends thought the ending was too sad. He even wrote the Hounds of Baskerville FOR THAT REASON.

If people complained about the ending and authors changed it WAY BACK THEN, then why not now?

We didn't like the ending, we want them to change it - not extend it. We want endings that reflect our choices - the ability to save a friend or make an enemy by shooting them in the leg.
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ValGravel Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not retaking. I'm sorry. Nothing is going to change my mind of that.I always played ME knowing that the story would not reflect every single one of my choices. I don't care that it was false advertising or not (for one, I didn't read anything related to the game prior to it's release). It was impossible. Heck, a lot of things were scrapped from the previous ME games and yet, nobody bitched about that...Remember the Rachni? No matter what you did, you ended up with the same exact mission in ME3...and were talking about exterminating a species or not, and that was in the very first game. And comparing it to Sherlock Holmes? Please....It's not my fault Sir Arthur Conan Doyle folded back then in front of his "fans". The treatment you "fans" gave Bioware is worst than a slap in the face. It's childish and immature. Be honest, was ME the first time a franchise you loved didn't end the way you wanted it? It happened before in novels, movies, television shows...and yet, even if people took their hatred of the ending to the Internet, and even if they begged the creators for a do-over, they did not do it..At least, not to my knowledge. Bottom line, you cannot "retake" something that never properly "belonged" to you.I am glad that Bioware is not changing the ending...heck, I am happy to be getting free DLC thanks to all the massive nerd rage of the Internet. But, does ME deserve crappy reviews because of the final 10 minutes of the game, hell no. That's uncalled for and immature.
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KINGcagedbuzzkill Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2012
I agree with you for the most part. Mass Effect belongs solely to EA/Bioware and we can't actually 'retake' Mass Effect, but Wwoodelf71 is right. False advertisement is illegal and that's what happened here. 90% of the assignments in the game are 'fetch quests'. You overhear someone's conversation, travel to a planet, and return to receive a reward. That's the definition of a fetch quest. Mac Walters said the presence of the Rachni would have a huge consequence in ME 3... there's only one mission involving them and it's unchanged whether you wiped them out in ME 1 or not. They didn't even appear in the final battle, we just got 100 points worth of war assets and they disappear. The list goes on, but the point is... you’re correct and the Retake ME3 members are correct. We didn’t create Mass Effect and we don’t own it either, but fans aren’t being greedy or selfish by wanting the ending changed. Also... saying something like your “ashamed to call myself a fan of the franchise” is just plain rude. Don’t do that, it just suggests you just want to start an argument and have no real intention of trying to explain you opinion. The fact that there are groups like Retake ME3 and the release of the Extended Cut DLC in the summer proves there’s something wrong. It’s not uncommon for there to be a few people who hate a game for it’s content, but the Retake movement has over 66,000 members. That’s more than a hand full. If Bioware has to release an “Explanation DLC” for fans to understand their ending, then there’s something wrong with it.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
uh well I didn't send any cupcake, I take part to the retake with my own creations, anyway I like the idea of colored cupcakes :XD:
I see in your profile that you are from Canada ...
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as much as we are anyway." - Mike Gamble
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BeautyAndMadness Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Biggest. Trolls. Ever.
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TheLarekus Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012
*sigh* I really really hate reading those quotes.
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Lilian-Palpatine Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
that's just... bitter.. Bioware is dead. There is just rEApers.
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graustier Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
Clever, heh.

Ah yes... "rEApers"... We've already dismissed that claim. =p
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BanzaiSquirrel Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
Very clever. And sadly true.
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ExGemini Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
BioWare is dead to me ...
They betrayed my trust for the last time :(
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BanzaiSquirrel Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
same here
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
and mine too :(
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
here's the link to the cover image to see it enlarged!!!

[link]
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PrototypeB Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
[link]

THEY'RE EXPANDING THE ENDING!!! WE WON!!
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StickyBoxers Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
No, don't believe this. This is a lie. They are not fixing the ending, they are making some cop out attempt with cut-scenes bullcrap.
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PrototypeB Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Better than nothing. Sure there are a 1000 different ideas I'd like for the ending but if we keep pushing we might get them to cave a little bit more.
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StickyBoxers Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
And maybe my Shepard can live, destroy the reapers, and have a big party on the Normandy. What is so wrong with that.
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PrototypeB Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Eh Bioware wants it to seem like "Oh the awesome hero has to die to show how grave the situation is and how Shepard will go to any length to beat the Reapers." I guess. LOL
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StickyBoxers Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
I think in a game like Mass Effect, nothing ever has to be.
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PrototypeB Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Agreed, I don't approve of it but it's what they chose regardless. Still I hope we get more options for Shepard living.

Seeing what happens afterwards WITH Shepard alive shouldn't be next to impossible in my opinion.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm afraid you're right :please:
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StickyBoxers Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Student Filmographer
Then "Hold The Line" everyone do not buy into this. Shepard deserves a better ending. Your Shepards deserve a better ending.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hold the line!
And spread the word! ;)
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Daemoe Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012
Per citare un vecchio film con Ben Stiller, "L'ira prende il sopravvento!"
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
funesta, oserei aggiungere ;)
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Sakara-Siluria Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
the link at bottom still goes to a tiny image.. but your words are true..All evidence points to a hasty hashed together ending
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, sorry, I haven't been able to do better :(
But if you save the image on your PC you'll be able to enlarge it ... I think ;)
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Sakara-Siluria Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012
No..enlarged,it becomes fuzzy sadly I can only just make out the words.Shame as what you have put is very good and needs to be shared.
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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Akumeno Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
you got the imag bigger the letters are too small
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Akumeno Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
even here are too small [link]
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know, I'm so sorry about that, I couldn't do any better >.<
Try to save it on your PC and I think you'll be able to enlarge it (I uploaded a JPG image that could be enlarged, so...)
Let me know ;)
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Akumeno Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yup, I have already donde a cople of funny faces trying to read the enlarged image but the info you put in the image is pretty good to share with more people, and more readable letters shall be marvelous! if you have the image in better resolution share it boy! HOLD THE LINE!
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TheLoneInquisitor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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Akumeno Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks sharing it!
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